Author Topic: My New Build (Read 6059 times)

German · « **on:** July 06, 2013, 07:36:34 PM »

1deadblawer · « **Reply #1 on:** July 06, 2013, 08:35:37 PM »

Looks good but Be a bit careful, A 1 terabit hard drive can become slow if not kept in check I had one only filled at 650 gigs and at 10k RPM it started to slow do to a crawl for some odd reason. I de-fragmented it. Got rid of really old junk I didn't need anymore and at 500 gigs then it was still slow.

But in other terms looks really good. : D

progresso · « **Reply #2 on:** July 06, 2013, 11:36:00 PM »

I would recommend THIS for the HDD. From what I have read, Seagate's Hard Drives aren't very reliable and are often either DOA or stop working after a very short period of time.
For a GPU, a GTX 670 would be better since I doubt you would OC the 7950.
And while the CPU isn't bad, your comp will be bottlenecked because is wouldn't be able to keep up with the GPU.
I would recommend getting a better CPU (Not sure what, I don't know much about AMD stuff) and something like a 660 ti.
The ram is fine but you can probably find it cheaper elsewhere or from a different manufacturer. (I know the Gskill Ripjaws goes for a few dollars cheaper)

IrishFiction · « **Reply #3 on:** July 06, 2013, 11:39:42 PM »

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And while the CPU isn't bad, your comp will be bottlenecked because is wouldn't be able to keep up with the GPU.

Do you mean the bus speeds will bottleneck it? Explain.

1deadblawer · « **Reply #4 on:** July 07, 2013, 09:55:37 AM »

Or if you wanna spend a little bit extra on your Hard drive you could get this

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7750549&CatId=139

It a hybrid drive, basically how it works is that it takes your most used programs and sets them to the SSD allowing for them to load faster. Why using the space off the HDD for everything else. For the 6 months I have used it It has been fast and it works rather well for its price.

progresso · « **Reply #5 on:** July 07, 2013, 11:39:37 PM »

Quote from: IrishFiction on July 06, 2013, 11:39:42 PM

Do you mean the bus speeds will bottleneck it? Explain.

It means that while your graphics card could allow playing BF3 on Ultra video settings, you would lag because your processor wouldn't be able to load frames fast enough and you would still lag. And you would lag no matter what video settings you are at and it gimps your system as a whole.

Quote from: Wikipedia

A bottleneck is a phenomenon where the performance or capacity of an entire system is limited by a single or limited number of components or resources.

Quote from: IrishFiction on July 06, 2013, 11:39:42 PM

Do you mean the bus speeds will bottleneck it? Explain.

The phenom II doesn't have a FSB.

German · « **Reply #6 on:** July 07, 2013, 11:48:14 PM »

Quote from: progresso on July 07, 2013, 11:39:37 PM

It means that while your graphics card could allow playing BF3 on Ultra video settings, you would lag because your processor wouldn't be able to load frames fast enough and you would still lag. And you would lag no matter what video settings you are at and it gimps your system as a whole.

I did a le switcheroo on my processors so bottlenecking shouldn't be a problem anymore.

IrishFiction · « **Reply #7 on:** July 08, 2013, 12:25:56 AM »

Well no shit Progresso. I bet we all know what a bottleneck is.

Modern AMD uses HT Technology, which is the same thing, down to the 1s and 0s, but if you want to be nip/picky I'll give you that.

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I did a le switcheroo on my processors so bottlenecking shouldn't be a problem anymore.

You really don't need to shell out extra cash for that. All you'd need to do to save some money is overclock both the bus... Ugh... HyperTransport... And the CPU. A $120 CPU is decent, and a $300 GPU is pretty bare minimum, so there won't be a parts problem. I had a very similar setup. So I'm speaking from experience.

langile · « **Reply #8 on:** July 08, 2013, 06:53:38 AM »

Quote from: IrishFiction on July 08, 2013, 12:25:56 AM

Well no shit Progresso. I bet we all know what a bottleneck is.

You'd be surprised. My computer is lagging? Time to buy more RAM!

Quote from: IrishFiction on July 08, 2013, 12:25:56 AM

And the CPU. A $120 CPU is decent, and a $300 GPU is pretty bare minimum, so there won't be a parts problem. I had a very similar setup. So I'm speaking from experience.

I have a $120 cpu and a $230 gpu. The bottleneck I have is in my cpu for the most part. I ended up getting a quad core, but if I would have spent $50 more on a fast 8 core I'd be running DayZ at like 80 fps. As it is I'm running it at an unstable 30 fps in cities.

My cpu isn't a problem for most games, as I run bf3 on ultra at 60 fps.

I also find rendering in after effects to take a LONG time with just a quad core. IMHO I think that money should be put into a decent cpu first, and then into the gpu. I made the mistake of picking out a really good gpu before my cpu. I probably could have gotten away with spending a little less on my gpu than I did. The minimum for a good gpu I'd say is ~$200, and cpu $150+

progresso · « **Reply #9 on:** July 08, 2013, 11:04:55 AM »

Okay so I talked to my friend who knows about AMD processors and what he said that you should go for a FX-8350 and go with the 660 ti to keep it about the same price. You should still be able to run games at high graphics but you would run them at a much higher fps.

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Quote from: German on July 06, 2013, 07:36:34 PM

I'm new to building computers

Even if he hadn't said that he was new to this, when you are explaining something you should always explain it like the person/people you are talking to know nothing about the topic. You had asked me to explain and I did. I didn't dodge your question, when there is a CPU bottleneck it literally means that it cant process the frames fast enough to keep up with the GPU. And the CPU is a much more important part than the GPU and $300 is not bare minimum. The CPU shouldn't be less than half the GPU, that's just stupid. You honestly don't need anything past a GTX 670 or a Radeon 7950 because they can have the same games at the same graphics level, they are in a good price range, and if you can see the difference between them (Which most people can't) it is so minuscule that it isn't worth the extra hundreds of dollars to get a 680 or 690. Also, it would be the same price if not more expensive to have him pay somebody to OC his CPU than it would be for him to get a CPU that would be better than the OCed one.

thelegend2311 · « **Reply #10 on:** July 08, 2013, 12:34:19 PM »

For the processor, go with an Intel i7, AMD's aren't as good as Intel. Intel has higher GHZ and run better, also much faster especially for gaming compared to AMD.

German · « **Reply #11 on:** July 08, 2013, 12:56:03 PM »

Quote from: thelegend2311 on July 08, 2013, 12:34:19 PM

For the processor, go with an Intel i7, AMD's aren't as good as Intel. Intel has higher GHZ and run better, also much faster especially for gaming compared to AMD.

That's quite an assumption you've made there my friend.
I've known a lot of people who use AMD processors (i.e. Glitch.) who haven't had a single problem with it. Yes, AMD does make some cheap processors.. but they also make some fan-fucking-tasic ones that are a bang for your buck.

thelegend2311 · « **Reply #12 on:** July 08, 2013, 01:13:30 PM »

I'm not saying their bad, they in fact quite good, I was interested in an AMD processor that was Eight core, 4.0 GHZ and was $200. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113284 Right here on Newegg.

Glitchvid · « **Reply #13 on:** July 08, 2013, 05:07:37 PM »

Quote from: thelegend2311 on July 08, 2013, 12:34:19 PM

For the processor, go with an Intel i7, AMD's aren't as good as Intel. Intel has higher GHZ and run better, also much faster especially for gaming compared to AMD.

Actually, in pure gaming (and streaming) tests, AMD performs BETTER than the Sandy / Ivy bridge series CPUs.
As for bottlenecking, don't worry about it: it won't be an issue for a long time with Graphics cards.

As for HarDrives, get one of these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136798
They're reliable as FUCK and fast.

Also, I'm getting this next year:
2x http://ark.intel.com/products/37113/
1x http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-270-WS-W555-A2-Classified-LGA1366-Motherboard/dp/B004663Z60/ref=sr_sp-atf_title_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1373325142&sr=8-1&keywords=evga+server+motherboard
1x http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811815011

s1dev · « **Reply #14 on:** July 14, 2013, 10:15:22 PM »

Quote from: Glitchvid on July 08, 2013, 05:07:37 PM

Actually, in pure gaming (and streaming) tests, AMD performs BETTER than the Sandy / Ivy bridge series CPUs.
As for bottlenecking, don't worry about it: it won't be an issue for a long time with Graphics cards.

As for HarDrives, get one of these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136798
They're reliable as FUCK and fast.

Also, I'm getting this next year:
2x http://ark.intel.com/products/37113/
1x http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-270-WS-W555-A2-Classified-LGA1366-Motherboard/dp/B004663Z60/ref=sr_sp-atf_title_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1373325142&sr=8-1&keywords=evga+server+motherboard
1x http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811815011

Westmere? good luck finding it this year much less next year, go with dual E5s on LGA2011

ToxicJew · « **Reply #15 on:** July 15, 2013, 12:05:43 PM »

Quote from: progresso on July 06, 2013, 11:36:00 PM

And while the CPU isn't bad, your comp will be bottlenecked because is wouldn't be able to keep up with the GPU.
I would recommend getting a better CPU (Not sure what, I don't know much about AMD stuff) and something like a 660 ti.

That's not true at all. An FX-8000 series can keep it with basically any single GPU on the market, and probably most SLI/Crossfire configs as well. And don't think I'm just a fanboy; I have a 3570k.

Quote from: thelegend2311 on July 08, 2013, 12:34:19 PM

For the processor, go with an Intel i7, AMD's aren't as good as Intel. Intel has higher GHZ and run better, also much faster especially for gaming compared to AMD.

GHz isn't the only thing measuring a processor's power. You can't make a statement across the board that "AMDs aren't as good as Intel." What about a pentium, does the flagship AMD processors get beat out by that? He also wouldn't need an i7 for gaming, he would see no performance gains versus getting an i5.

German · « **Reply #16 on:** July 22, 2013, 08:33:50 PM »

I'm upgrading my case..
I was thinking about getting langile's case, but I was also considering the Rosewill Thor V2..
Opinions on the cases or recommendations would be appreciated!
My budget is 100-150.

ToxicJew · « **Reply #17 on:** July 22, 2013, 10:14:03 PM »

I said this in some other thread, but I'll say it again. I use a CM Storm Stryker, and I absolutely love it. With that being said, there are some other really nice cases out there. Corsair makes good cases, but some of their best are a bit out of your budget. Check them out: http://www.corsair.com/en/pc-cases.html

German · « **Reply #18 on:** August 06, 2013, 07:42:25 PM »

Well a lot has changed over the few weeks as I have switched out a lot of parts for some new ones so I thought I would just re-post it again with the new parts.

Motherboard *NEW*
Graphics Card *NEW*
Power Supply
CPU *NEW*
RAM *NEW*
Hard Drive
Computer Case *NEW*
DVD Burner
OS
Wireless Adapter

I am pretty sure that this list will be final unless I have an issue. Hopefully this will turn out to be a great build!

Taiga · « **Reply #19 on:** August 06, 2013, 08:41:09 PM »

"semi budget"

man you have a 670 and quad core ivy processor, and 8 gb of ram on top of that

beats my 460 with 4 gb of ram.